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Fast & Furious Original Fast 5 Plan Would’ve Killed The Franchise

The original Fast Five plan involved a very different antagonist, and that could have killed the Fast and Furious franchise before it even got a chance to become the box office juggernaut that it is today. After Fast & Furious (2009) proved that there was still an audience for the adventures of Vin Diesel’s Dom Toretto and Paul Walker’s Brian, especially after the loosely connected 2 Fast 2 Furious and The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift, Universal decided to double down on the franchise. Tokyo Drift and Fast & Furious director Justin Lin returned for the fifth movie, now with a budget increment of $40 million.

Part of Fast Five’s $125 million budget can be explained by the larger cast. While the first four Fast and Furious films would usually follow a duo of protagonists, Fast Five introduced the idea of Dom Toretto’s crew, or family, of pilots. Characters from all four Fast and Furious movies got together for the first time, and Fast Five finally made all installments feel like they belonged to one franchise only. For example, Dom finally got to meet 2 Fast 2 Furious’ Roman and Tej, and Brian finally got to meet Tokyo Drift’s Han.

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The most crucial addition to Fast Five, however, was the addition of Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson as Luke Hobbs. While the Fast and Furious franchise could have worked without ever adding Dwayne Johnson to the mix, it is undeniable how much of an impact the star had on the series, especially considering how the movies were aiming at becoming an action blockbuster franchise. Hobbs would then team up with Dom’s crew at the end of Fast Five, making it possible for The Rock to return in Fast & Furious 6, Furious 7, and The Fate of the Furious, not to mention the Hobbs & Shaw spinoff. However, Fast Five almost did not star The Rock, as the original plan for Hobbs was quite different from the role Dwayne Johnson ended up playing. This was revealed by Vin Diesel in 2016 through a Facebook post in which the actor recalled, way before Diesel’s feud with The Rock started, how Dwayne Johnson joined the franchise.

The Rock’s Hobbs Was Originally An Older Character
 Luke Hobbs tracks down Dom and his crew in Rio in Fast Five

Instead of an active agent at the high of his reputation who could fight Dominic Toretto hand to hand, the idea was for Hobbs to be an older, more seasoned federal agent. Hobbs would likely not have been chasing Dom and his crew through the streets of Rio de Janeiro by himself but would rather have served as a strategist commanding an investigation on Toretto. While The Rock’s Hobbs did do something similar in Fast Five, with the character coming up with strategies and leading a team of agents, it was in the action sequences that he really got to shine. The first encounter between Hobbs and Toretto, in which The Rock’s character jumps from one roof to another while to trying to catch Dom, is one of the highlights of Fast Five – and it set the tone for what the rest of the movie would be like.

Before realizing that Dom, Brian, and their friends were not the real threat, Hobbs fought Toretto hand to hand in a true battle of titans. Neither Vin Diesel nor The Rock is used to losing a fight in a movie, which made the Dom and Hobbs showdown in Fast Five even more interesting. However, considering how the villain was supposed to be an older character, all of the mentioned action sequences were only added after Dwayne Johnson was cast as Hobbs.

Tommy Lee Jones Was Considered For Hobbs In Fast Five
Tommy Lee Jones and Natalie Dormer in Captain America

Had Fast Five gone forward with the original concept for Hobbs, then the crew already had a name: Tommy Lee Jones. In fact, the role of Hobbs had been written with Tommy Lee Jones in mind. There are not many details regarding whether or not Tommy Lee Jones was ever offered the role, as the Vin Diesel only revealed that they gave the part to The Rock instead and that “he shined in it.” While the Fast and Furious franchise has recently seen names like Helen Mirren, Kurt Russell, and Charlize Theron as action stars, having an actor as big as Tommy Lee Jones appearing as early as in Fast Five would have been surprising.

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Fast Five’s Original Plan Would’ve Missed What Made The Movie So Good
Vin Diesel as Dominic Toretto and Dwayne Johnson as Hobbs in Fast and Furious 5

As interesting as it would be to see Tommy Lee Jones in Fast and Furious, having an older agent Hobbs in Fast Five would have missed what made the movie so good. Although Fast Five was a heist movie, the real conflict of the story was having Hobbs, an agent with a perfect record, going after the Fast and Furious characters that audiences had been following since 2001. Unlike forgettable villains such as 2 Fast 2 Furious’ Carter Verone and Fast & Furious’ Braga, Dwayne Johnson’s character was the first antagonist to actually feel like he could defeat the heroes. As such, there are those who still consider Hobbs the best Fast and Furious villain. From the rooftop chase to the Hobbs vs. Dom fight, The Rock was crucial to making the best moments from Fast Five possible.

Fast Five Without The Rock Would’ve Killed Fast & Furious
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The budget for Fast Five, the biggest in the first five Fast and Furious films, proves how big the movie’s aspirations were. For the first time since The Fast and the Furious, the focus was no longer going to be on car races or small-scale heists but rather on a superhero-level plot. Fast Five represents the transition of Fast and Furious into a blockbuster franchise, and that was symbolized by The Rock. Had the action star not been in Fast Five, then the film could have been just another Fast and Furious movie, perhaps closer to Fast & Furious (2009).

Johnson’s Hobbs was the new element that made Fast & Furious 5 so distinct from previous movies in the saga, and that allowed the big action sequences to make sense within the story. While there are those who wish Fast and Furious would go back to its simpler origins, the franchise would not have become what it is today without the shift in tone and scale seen in Fast Five. For that reason, it is good that The Rock ended up playing Hobbs instead of Tommy Lee Jones.

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Fast & Furious 11 Release Delay & Filming Start Date Confirmed By Director

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Fast and Furious 11
is facing a release date delay to Summer 2026 due to strikes, with director Louis Leterrier confirming the sequel will not be hitting its April 4, 2025 date.
Leterrier also confirms that filming starts in Fall 2025 after finishing a horror movie in September.
The final installment in the
Fast Saga
reunites Vin Diesel’s Dominic Toretto for one last ride, while also leaving the door open for other spinoffs.

After facing multiple delays due to the 2023 SAG-AFTRA and Writers Guild of America strikes, Fast and Furious 11 is seeing its release date delayed. The next installment in the Vin Diesel-fronted franchise is expected to be the last mainline sequel, while development continues on the Dwayne Johnson-led spinoff Hobbs & Reyes, a mysterious standalone movie penned by Fast X’s Zach Dean and a potential female-led spinoff. While a filming start date was never confirmed, Universal had previously set the movie for an April 2025 release date.

During a recent interview with Collider at a CCXP MX panel, Louis Leterrier was asked for an update on Fast and Furious 11. The director went on to confirm that the final mainline installment in the action franchise will no longer be making its April 4, 2025 release date, instead now aiming for a Summer 2026 release window with the filming start date being set for this fall. Check out what Leterrier said below:

It’s happening. It’s happening very, very soon. I’m able to shoot a little horror movie this summer. I’m finishing my horror movie on September 15th, and I start Fast on September 16th.

Will Fast 11’s Multiple Delays Help Or Hurt The Sequel?

Much like the tenth film before it, Fast and Furious 11 has faced a few behind-the-scenes hardships in its road to getting off the ground, namely the delays stemming from the 2023 strikes. While the latest movie seems to have retained its core creative team in comparison to the shift in directors from franchise vet Justin Lin to Leterrier on Fast X after reported creative differences between the former and Diesel, this change didn’t seem to help much with the continued downward trend recent sequels have seen from critics. Check out how the franchise’s Rotten Tomatoes scores compare below:

Title RT Critical Score RT Audience Score The Fast and the Furious 54% 74% 2 Fast 2 Furious 37% 50% The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift 37% 69% Fast & Furious 28% 67% Fast Five 78% 83% Fast & Furious 6 71% 84% Furious 7 81% 82% The Fate of the Furious 67% 72% Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw 67% 88% F9: The Fast Saga 59% 82% Fast X 56% 84%

Even looking outside the Fast and Furious franchise, many movie sequels have found themselves hurt by various delays, be they from creative changes, general release shifts or other factors. The action genre in particular is one in which lengthier development periods can lead to diminishing returns, be it A Good Day to Die Hard, Rambo: Last Blood or Diesel’s own xXx: The Return of Xander Cage. While Fast and Furious 11 may only be getting pushed back by a year, the delay is nonetheless a concern that the final installment could find itself in trouble.

Dom Toretto (Vin Diesel) looking angry with Letty (Michelle Rodriguez) looking unimpressed in Fast & Furious

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On the other hand, the longer wait for Fast and Furious 11 to close out the mainline series of movies could actually prove beneficial for the sequel. Though Leterrier may be busy with another project in the lead-up to filming the next installment, writers Oren Uziel and Christina Hodson should now have more than enough time to really look back at the script and ensure it learns from the critical missteps of recent installments to deliver a satisfying conclusion to the Dominic Toretto saga.

Source: Collider

Fast and Furious 11 temp poster Fast and Furious 11 Fast and Furious 11 is the final movie in the Fast Saga. It reunites Vin Diesel’s Dominic Toretto with the rest of the cast for one last ride. However, the franchise is open for spinoff films like Hobbs & Shaw afterward.Director Louis Leterrier Release Date April 4, 2025 Distributor(s) Universal Pictures Writers Christina Hodson , Oren Uziel

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Vin Diesel Already Has His Perfect Fast & Furious Replacement Franchise With 51-Year-Old Remake

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Vin Diesel’s dominance in Fast & Furious is ending, but Kojak could kick off a new action franchise for him.
Kojak’s reboot faces an uncertain future, but its similarity to Fast & Furious makes it a worthy project for Diesel.
Diesel’s potential shift from criminal racer to cop signifies a fresh start in a possible Fast & Furious-like series.

Vin Diesel’s days of playing Dominic Toretto are numbered, but the actor has already found his perfect Fast & Furious replacement. Diesel found a major breakout role in the early 2000s thanks to participating in The Fast and the Furious. The original 2001 street racing crime movie became the springboard for a sprawling franchise that has lasted for over two decades. The success of the Fast & Furious movies transformed Vin Diesel’s career, turning him into an even bigger star, especially in the action movie genre. But, Fast & Furious 11 is planned as the final chapter for him and the franchise.

The Fast & Furious franchise’s end will put Vin Diesel in an unfamiliar position of not having a major franchise to lean back on. This presents the actor with various options, such as changing the course of his career to pursue non-franchise roles. However, the more likely outcome is that Diesel will attempt to find a new IP that can replace Fast & Furious. He has had trouble in that regard recently, with franchises like xXx or Riddick running cold and Bloodshot and The Last Witch Hunter failing to launch franchises. There is another option for Diesel, though.

2:03 Vin Diesel as Dominic Toretto from The Fast & Furious Franchise

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Kojak Can Be Vin Diesel’s New Action Crime Franchise After Fast & Furious
Diesel Has Been Developing The Reboot Since 2015

The impending conclusion of the Fast & Furious franchise means it is finally time for Vin Diesel’s Kojak reboot to get off the ground. The project was announced back in 2015 with Diesel re-teaming with Universal Pictures, the studio behind Fast & Furious, to develop a movie based on Kojak. The original TV series starred Telly Savalas as Theo Kokaj and ran for three seasons after debuting in 1973. The series revolves around Kojak, a New York detective known for being willing to go beyond the law and a love for cars and lollipops, and follows him as he investigates different cases.

Kojak was rebooted in 2005 as a TV show starring Ving Rhames, but it only ran for six episodes

Development on Vin Diesel’s Kojak movie has not been very active in the nine years since it was announced. However, it still maintains the base similarities to Fast & Furious, which makes the project a worthwhile endeavor for Diesel in terms of finding a new action franchise. He would now have another big action series about cars and crime, essentially making Kojak into a newer version of Fast & Furious. The irony here is that Diesel takes on the role of a cop after playing criminal racer Dominic Toretto.

Vin Diesel’s Involvement Can Morph Kojak Into A Major Action Franchise
Kojak Could Be A Fast & Furious Clone
Telly Savalas talking on the phone in Kojak

Looking at the original TV show, Kojak might not necessarily project to be a major blockbuster action franchise akin to Fast & Furious. The TV series was relatively grounded and small due to the nature of its production. However, the fact that Diesel and Universal pinpointed this property as something they wanted to revive together is telling. The announcement of Kojak’s reboot came months after Furious 7 debuted in theaters and took the franchise to new heights at the box office and in terms of how ridiculously big the action and story could get.

It’s sometimes difficult to remember that Fast & Furious started off with a story about DVD thieves who were also street racers before Diesel helped turn it into something much bigger. With that experience and success already behind him, it would be understandable if a similar path was envisioned for Kojak. The series could then morph into a Fast & Furious clone, one that gives Vin Diesel a new franchise to headline and Universal a “fresh” action franchise to grow.

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The Rock’s WWE Run Means Fast & Furious 11 Must Make 1 Major Hobbs Change

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Hobbs from Fast & Furious 11 needs a gritty edge like The Rock’s WWE character to keep the franchise fresh and exciting.
The Rock’s time away from the Fast & Furious universe provides the perfect reason for Hobbs to return with a personal vendetta and a more savage attitude.
While Hobbs shouldn’t become a full-fledged villain in Fast & Furious 11, adding some edginess and dirty tricks could make his character more intriguing and dynamic.

Fast & Furious 11 must make one major Hobbs change after The Rock’s incredible WWE run. Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson’s WWE return surpassed his recent movies, with the actor creating some of the best work of his career. Having returned to a thunderous reception, The Rock was able to flip the crowd’s reception by becoming a heel and playing a major part in WrestleMania’s main events. The Rock hasn’t played a villain on screen for years, as even his depiction of Black Adam lent more into the character’s anti-hero side, which made his wrestling run all the more refreshing.

While his wrestling character may not perfectly translate into the Fast & Furious universe, there is one aspect of The Rock’s WWE run that the franchise should attempt to implement. After debuting in Fast Five, The Rock’s best Fast & Furious scenes helped contribute to the movie series becoming so popular, with Luke Hobbs becoming an instrumental part of the story. He was even given his own spinoff alongside Deckard Shaw (Jason Statham) and is set to get a solo movie in the future. Despite this, Hobbs would still benefit from adding one key aspect of The Rock’s WWE run.

The Rock’s WWE Run Proves Fast & Furious 11 Needs To Give Hobbs More Of An Edge
Fast & Furious Would Benefit From Hobbs Adopting Some Of The Rock’s WWE Tendancies
Dwayne The Rock Johnson in Black Adam, WWE, and Hobbs and Shaw

Given how electrifying The Rock’s recent WWE run was, there is no doubt Fast & Furious 11 needs to give Hobbs more of an edge. Although the character has had his more serious moments, like most of the Fast & Furious cast, Hobbs tends to mix action with comedy. Hobbs and Shaw are supposed to be two of the more stoic heroes, yet they are constantly at each other’s throats and cracking jokes to help maintain the franchise’s lighthearted core. However, giving Hobbs a grittier side would help the character thrive upon his return.

The Rock’s Fast & Furious return may redeem Fast X’s box office, but the character needs to come back stronger than ever. By allowing him to be more ruthless, he can still maintain some elements of comedy but also become more interesting in the process. Johnson proved that despite being a detestable heel, he was still as hilarious as ever during his recent WWE tenure. This proves that he can maintain Fast & Furious’ tone and humorous style while being more layered; therefore, Hobbs adopting some of The Rock’s WWE characteristics could make him even more entertaining.

Fast & Furious Already Has A Reason For Hobbs To Be More Savage
Hobbs Has Been Away From The Franchise For Several Years

Making a major change to Hobbs’ character could be tough to explain, but Fast & Furious 11 already has a great reason to make him more savage. His four-year absence from the franchise gives him a perfect excuse to come back with a vengeance and potentially have a personal attachment to Fast & Furious 11’s villains. Hobbs’ time away from the main story could be explained through a connection to Fast X’s secondary villain, Aimes. Aimes’ villain twist in Fast X was well executed and suggests he’ll be around for the sequel, which is the perfect reason to bring back Hobbs.

Having a more personal story with one of the villains could allow Hobbs to continue his great quips and one-liners, but it would also give him more of an edge.

Fast X never explained why he’s back, but having a personal vendetta against Aimes could be an intriguing reason. Given Dom and Dante are the focal point of the franchise’s conclusion, Hobbs returning to take down Aimes would avoid overshadowing the main story while still giving him an interesting role. Having a personal story with one of the villains could allow Hobbs to continue his great quips and one-liners, while also giving him more of an edge. This provides The Rock with the perfect reason to implement some of his heel traits while still portraying a morally good hero.

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Why Fast & Furious Can’t Bring The Rock Back As A Villain
Hobbs Already Appeared As An Antagonist In Fast Five
A custom image featuring Dwayne Johnson as Luke Hobbs in the Fast and Furious movies Custom image by Debanjana Chowdhury

Although The Rock’s villainous tendencies worked well in the WWE, Fast & Furious can’t bring him back as an antagonist. Johnson already played the main villain of Fast Five, as Hobbs was originally an enemy of Dom and his crew before becoming an ally. Hobbs’ role in Fast Five was one of his best, but despite being the main antagonist, he always had a level of integrity. Dropping all of this to make him a villain in the final movie would be completely unnecessary, especially as the franchise needs him to remain a hero for his spinoff.

Fast & Furious 11 may end the main story, but The Rock will be part of the franchise beyond this, and altering his character so drastically wouldn’t make any sense. Instead, adding some extra edge to his character would have the same effect and would avoid stealing the thunder from Dante and Aimes. Although Fast & Furious 11 shouldn’t make him a villain, the film can still allow Hobbs to play dirty and pull some cheap tricks in order to show a grittier side, while letting him taunt his enemies when he inevitably helps save the day.

Fast & Furious 11
is scheduled to be released in theaters on April 4, 2025.

Fast and Furious 11 temp poster Fast and Furious 11 Fast and Furious 11 is the final movie in the Fast Saga. It reunites Vin Diesel’s Dominic Toretto with the rest of the cast for one last ride. However, the franchise is open for spinoff films like Hobbs & Shaw afterward.Director Louis Leterrier Release Date April 4, 2025 Distributor(s) Universal Pictures Writers Christina Hodson , Oren Uziel

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