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Biggest Continuity Errors Made By Fast & Furious 9

F9: The Fast Saga delivers all the same absurdity and hilariously improbable action that the franchise has become famous for in recent years, creating a number of plot holes and continuity errors along the way. Nitpicking a Fast and Furious movie for consistency and believability might seem like a fool’s errand, but the series has actually done a decent job through the years of justifying its various wild occurrences within its own less-than-realistic rules. But even still, there are some things in F9 that simply break the series’ established continuity.

It’s no secret that Fast and Furious is far from realistic, and in fairness, most of the things that happen in F9 could be categorized as plot holes if looked at through a strictly logical lens. How does Dom manage to collapse a concrete bunker on his head, plummet into a pool of water far below him, and still survive? How does the crew manage to outrun landmine explosions when that is physically impossible? How do Roman and Tej manage to find the International Space Station in the vast expanse of Earth’s orbit? The simple answer is that these aren’t plot holes. They’re perfectly sensical happenings in the world of Fast and Furious – a comic book world where people survive impossible things and wield superhuman abilities.

Related: F9: Every Easter Egg & Reference Explained

What’s less excusable in F9 are the actual plot holes, the continuity errors that clash with what’s already been established as true in the universe of the Fast franchise. There are a number of them throughout the movie, some of which can be partially explained with enough effort, and some of which simply don’t make sense.

Why Did Dom Never Mention Jakob?
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The biggest apparent plot hole in F9 is the introduction of Jakob Toretto (John Cena), Dom and Mia’s estranged brother. Jakob was never mentioned once in the franchise before the first trailer for F9 released, and because of Dom’s intense family values, many fans took the mere existence of Jakob as a huge plot hole. It’s somewhat explainable through the film’s own logic, however. Since Dom values family so much, cutting his brother out of his life would necessitate a severe level of erasure. In other words, rejecting Jakob is at odds with Dom’s own morals, so he has to act as if Jakob is dead, or never existed, to live with his decision. That makes Jakob’s previous invisibility a bit more believable, but it’s still a significant continuity error.

Where Is Dom, Mia And Jakob’s Mother?
Mia Toretto giving side eye in Fast and Furious 9

F9 shows a lot of Dom, Mia and Jakob’s youth through flashback scenes, but those scenes never involve – or even mention – their mother. In fact, Dom’s mom has never been mentioned once in the entire franchise. This is a big plot hole, as it impacts Mia and Jakob’s life significantly after Dom goes to prison. If they still have a parent at home during that time, things would be a lot different than if they were left to fend for themselves. And while everything about Jack Toretto’s story suggests he’s a single parent by the time of his death, this is never confirmed. If Dom and Mia’s mom is dead, why don’t they talk about her like they talk about Jack? There’s a lot that doesn’t make sense, and it won’t be fixed until Dom, Mia and Jakob’s mother is finally acknowledged.

How Did Mr. Nobody Capture Cipher?
Charlize Theron as Cipher in a flight simulator in F9

Cipher (Charlize Theron) escapes capture at the end of The Fate of the Furious by leaping from her spy plane, but F9 begins with her being rescued from Mr. Nobody’s imprisonment by Jakob. The movie claims that Cipher was simply apprehended some time between the two movies, but the fact that her capture is never shown or explained seems like a bit of a plot hole. In Fate, Cipher is treated like the ultimate villain, whose technological skills and advanced weapons make her nearly impossible to find, let alone catch. It’s true that Mr. Nobody has access to similarly advanced tech, but it still seems like a bit of a stretch that he could just arrest her in between films with no fanfare at all.

Related: Can You Outrun Landmine Explosions Like In F9?

Where’s Tokyo Drift’s Neela?
Neela and Takashi look at something while in a club

Most of the cast of The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift returns triumphantly in F9, with one notable exception. Neela, who played a major role in the third Fast film, is nowhere to be seen, and she isn’t even mentioned by her former friends. There’s a significant amount of time between Tokyo Drift and F9 in the official Fast and Furious timeline, so it’s possible she and the rest of the gang simply fell out of touch. However, it still seems odd that she doesn’t get so much as a line referencing her whereabouts, given everything she went through with Sean, Twinkie, Earl and Han in Tokyo Drift.

How Could Dom Not Know About His Father’s Debts?
Young Dom Toretto in F9.

In F9’s flashback scenes, it’s revealed that Dom kicked Jakob out of the Toretto family because he blamed him for their father’s death. While in prison, he remembers seeing Jakob doing something suspicious under Jack’s hood on the day of the accident, and in his grief and rage he chooses to believe that Jakob killed their father by choice. The truth is that Jack Toretto had was deeply in debt, and that he had Jakob sabotage his car on purpose to try to throw the race. He didn’t tell Dom at the time because he felt ashamed, and he made Jakob promise never to reveal the secret.

The problem here is that, as the de facto head of the Toretto household after getting out of prison, it seems highly unlikely that Dom wouldn’t have learned about his father’s debts eventually. It’s possible that the arrangements Jack made to throw the race still ended up easing his family’s financial burden enough that it wasn’t an immediate problem when Dom got out of prison, even though he died. It’s also possible that Jakob managed to square things up in the interim. But wouldn’t Mia have known something was up? And wouldn’t Dom have found out once he had control of the family’s financial history? It’s all technically feasible that he somehow never learned the truth, but that feels like a stretch too far.

Why Did Mr. Nobody Never Tell Dom About Han?
The Fast and furious recap Dominic Toretto Hans death Mr Nobody

In Fast and Furious 9, it’s revealed that Mr. Nobody faked Han’s death, retconning Tokyo Drift and Furious 7 through an incredibly convoluted side plot involving super weapons, holograms, and secret adopted daughters. But somehow, within the odd logic of the franchise, it all sort of makes sense. What makes less sense is why, in the years since Han supposedly died, didn’t Mr. Nobody tell Dom? He obviously wouldn’t want to say anything in Furious 7 because Han would have still been highly vulnerable, and also because the belief that Deckard Shaw had killed Han helped convince Dom and the crew to work for Mr. Nobody in the first place. But what about in the years after? Surely a confidential acknowledgement that Han was still alive would have been safe, provided that his location wasn’t revealed. However, instead, Mr. Nobody lets Dom and everyone else continue believing that Han is dead.

Related: F9: Why Han Would Forgive Dom For Working With Deckard Shaw

Why Doesn’t Hobbs Help Dom In F9?
Dom and Hobbs in Fast Five

The biggest absence in F9 is Dwayne Johnson’s Luke Hobbs, who’s been a major player in the franchise since Fast Five. The highly publicized off-screen reason for his exclusion from F9 is that Johnson and Vin Diesel have a longstanding feud and refuse to work with each other. But in the world of the movie, F9 gives no real explanation for Hobb’s absence. There’s a throwaway line from Tej about how Mr. Nobody told them not to trust anyone else, but Hobbs is basically part of the family at this point in the story. His resources would surely have come in handy, and F9 doesn’t really even try to come up with a decent reason why he wouldn’t join the action.

Where Is Brian?
Vin diesel Dom Paul Walker Brian Oconnor Fast and furious 11

Closing out this list is a plot hole that isn’t really a plot hole, but is still worth mentioning. Because of Paul Walker’s tragic death prior to the completion of Furious 7, Brian O’Conner has effectively been written out of the Fast and Furious franchise. It’s the right decision, as recasting the character would be disrespectful, and F9 does a good job of weaving Brian into the background of the story. However, his absence inevitably feels a little off, as it did in The Fate of the Furious. Brian is a Toretto after marrying Mia, and while saying that he’s watching the kids during F9 is a good way to keep him out of the picture, it’s strange that he wouldn’t do everything possible to be by Dom’s side during his battle with Jakob. Again, F9 does the best it can with Brian, and it pays tribute to Walker in touching ways. But it’s also just a fact that F9, and the franchise in general, can’t help but feel a little empty without Brian.

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Fast & Furious 11 Needs Hobbs Vs. Dom (To End The Rock & Vin Diesel’s Feud)

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Fast and Furious 11 needs to feature an epic fight between The Rock and Vin Diesel to resolve the real-life feud and bring closure to their characters’ relationship. The clash between Dom and Hobbs in Fast Five was a game-changer, and revisiting that epic confrontation in Fast 11 would elevate the action and add nostalgia. A showdown between Dom and Hobbs in Fast 11 could serve as a decisive moment of reconciliation, reaffirming the underlying themes of family and unity in the franchise.

Now that Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson has returned to the Fast Saga, Fast and Furious 11 needs to include an epic fight between Johnson and Vin Diesel. In the high-octane world of the Fast and Furious franchise, the thrill of fast cars and heart-stopping action has always been amplified by the magnetic on-screen chemistry between its stars. However, a real-life feud between The Rock and Vin Diesel has been brewing since 2016. Director Louis Leterrier achieved the impossible by bringing The Rock back into the fold. Now, he must find a way to reunite Luke Hobbs and Dominic Toretto on-screen.

Ever since Fate of the Furious, the void left by The Rock’s absence has grown more conspicuous. The actor’s feud with Vin Diesel has cast a shadow over the franchise, making it increasingly difficult for the writers and directors to craft a cohesive narrative. As Fast Saga fans await the next installment, all eyes are on Leterrier to weave a compelling story that not only showcases jaw-dropping action but also offers a chance for Hobbs and Dom to partake in an epic showdown.

Hobbs & Dom Fighting In Fast & Furious 11 Would Bring Their Arc Full Circle
Vin Diesel's Dom confronts Dwayne Johnson's Hobbs in Fast Five

Fast X and Fast and Furious 11 act as sequels to Fast Five in many ways, so it makes perfect sense for the upcoming installment to build on the fight scene between Dom and Hobbs from Fast Five. The clash between the two powerhouse characters left an indelible mark on fans. Revisiting that epic confrontation could elevate the adrenaline-fueled action and add a layer of nostalgia to Fast and Furious 11. Now that Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson has had a change of heart and returned to the Fast Saga, the anticipation for a rematch between his and Vin Diesel’s characters has reached a fever pitch.

Dom and Hobbs’ showdown in Fast Five was a game-changer for the franchise, propelling it to new heights with its intensity and raw energy. Given the unresolved tension between the two stars in real life, a meticulously crafted fight scene in Fast 11 has the potential to invigorate the climax of the series and provide a cathartic experience for the actors and fans alike. As Fast 11 may be the final chapter in the Fast and Furious universe, all eyes are on this anticipated clash. Hopefully, a brotherly fight will be the defining moment that brings harmony back to the Fast Saga family.

The Rock & Vin Diesel Can Put Their Feud To Rest On Screen
Hobbs holding on to Dom in Fast and Furious 5

Vin Diesel and The Rock’s personal history adds a layer of complexity to any potential fight between their characters in Fast and Furious 11. Given their real-life feud, it’s unlikely either actor would be portrayed as the clear winner or loser. Moreover, from a storytelling perspective, it would be counterproductive to have Dom excessively harm or kill Hobbs or vice versa. However, as the series approaches its potential end, a showdown between Dom and Hobbs could serve as a decisive moment of reconciliation. After all, throughout the Fast and Furious films, audiences have witnessed a recurring pattern of men engaging in physical conflicts before eventually forming unbreakable bonds.

For instance, Fast and Furious sees Dom and Brian’s tumultuous relationship evolve into a deep brotherly connection after a series of knock-down, drag-out fights. This same sort of understanding between Dom and Hobbs would reaffirm the underlying themes of reconciliation and family that have contributed to the franchise’s enduring popularity. By embracing the notion that they are, in a sense, brothers, Dom and Hobbs could mend their on-screen relationship and deliver a broader message of unity. This would ultimately give fans a satisfying conclusion to their relationship in Fast and Furious 11.

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Vin Diesel Posts Paul Walker Tribute On 10th Anniversary Of His Death

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Vin Diesel shares a touching tribute to Paul Walker 10 years after the actor’s tragic death on November 30, 2013. Diesel expresses that “more smiles manage to break through the tears” as years pass because he knows his bond with Walker will be stronger than ever when they eventually reunite. Walker’s character, Brian O’Connor, remains alive in the world of Fast and Furious, and Diesel has previously teased that the franchise won’t end without a proper farewell to Brian and Walker.

Fast and Furious star Vin Diesel takes to social media to share a touching tribute to Paul Walker, 10 years after the actor’s death. First released in 2001, the debut installment in the long-running Fast and Furious franchise introduces Diesel as Dominic Toretto and Walker as Brian O’Connor. Both characters would return for a number of sequels, but Walker tragically passed away on November 30, 2013, during the production of Furious 7.

Now, on the 10th anniversary of Walker’s passing, Diesel has shared a touching tribute post on Instagram to honor his late Fast and Furious costar. Check out the actor’s emotional post below:

Accompanying an image of Walker with one of his daughters, Diesel reminisces about an important lesson learned from the late actor and how his legacy still lives on today. Diesel’s full caption is included below:

I was listening to a song this morning…‘That Lucky Old Sun’… thought of you, racing around Heaven all day. Hahaha…
The family of the Mourning, feels like it has grown since a decade ago… feel’s like that experience of losing someone is far too common today. Leaving more and more of us in search for meaning, trying to make sense of this complex existence…
Oh, I have finally understood what you use to do with the phone, “phone Fasting”… you had the insight to turn off your phone for long stretches of time. I started this year to do just that. You used to say, Vin and I can go years without talking, and our brotherhood will always be stronger than we left it, the ones who truly love you will always be there.
Amen to that.
This is one of my favorite images ever taken… You knew how proud I was when my daughter, the Alpha Angel, your niece would play the piano… well last night she was playing Moonlight Sonata… it took me back to the night before she was born. Me and you were working late… you were telling me that the best moment in life would be witnessing my child being born. That priceless smile you had when I told you the next day that I had cut the umbilical cord…
The next song she started playing on the piano is by an artist you would have loved, named Billie Eilish, ‘What was I made for’… when she started to play, the other angels all came and joined her at the piano and they started singing… wow…emotions… angels, I know you were listening.
After ten years… I know these days of beautiful remembrance will be filled with tears. But as time rolls on, with each year that passes… more smiles manage to break through the tears. Cause I know, when I see you again… our brotherhood will be stronger than we left it.
Miss you.

Will Brian Be Seen Again In Fast & Furious?
Furious 7 Reveals How Paul Walker’s Character Can Return
CGI Paul Walker in Furious 7.

Walker’s death in November 2013 came with a great deal of sadness, but it also created problems for the Furious 7 production, which was about halfway done. It was ultimately decided that Walker’s remaining scenes would be completed with a digital recreation of the actor, with his two brothers, Cody and Caleb Walker, serving as body doubles. Although Walker may have passed away, Brian remains alive and well within the world of the films, though he has not been seen in the flesh since Furious 7’s emotional ending.

The closet audiences have come to seeing Brian again (outside of the flashbacks featured in Fast X) is at the end of F9: The Fast Saga, when the character’s iconic Nissan Skyline pulls up at Dom’s house. This summer’s Fast X supposedly sets up the conclusion of the franchise in an 11th and potentially 12th installment (in addition to the announced Dwayne Johnson Luke Hobbs spinoff movie), and it’s very likely that the final movie will see Brian return in some capacity.

Diesel has also essentially teased as much, telling Total Film (via GamesRadar) earlier this year: “I couldn’t imagine this saga ending without truly saying goodbye to Brian O’Conner.” It’s unclear if this will mean a substantial digital recreation of the actor for extended portions of the film or a quick cameo at the very end, but it seems like audiences haven’t seen the last of Brian just yet. Even in death, Walker remains a key pillar of Fast and Furious, and it’s fitting that the final film will feature another heartfelt goodbye to further honor the late actor.

Source: Vin Diesel/ Instagram

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All 4 Fast & Furious Heroes Who Stayed Dead (& Which One Is Most Likely To Return)

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Fast & Furious franchise is known for bringing back dead characters, but there are a few heroes who have remained dead. Jack Toretto, Dom’s father, died in a racing accident and his death should not be undone in the franchise. Jesse, a member of Dom’s crew, was killed in a drive-by shooting, while Vince was killed during an ambush. Elena, Dom’s love interest, was killed by the villain Cipher.

The Fast & Furious franchise has brought many characters back from the dead, but a handful of its heroes have remained killed off after their demise. The Fast Saga has taken its characters on a wild ride from street racing to the most outlandish adventures possible. The running theme of the Fast & Furious franchise has long been family, with Dominic Toretto (Vin Diesel) building quite a large family indeed over the course of the Fast Saga’s run.

On top of its embrace of ridiculous, superhuman feats as a staple of its action scenes, the Fast & Furious movies are also well known for bringing back seemingly dead characters for more missions. The returns of Sung Kang’s Han in F9 and Gal Gadot’s Gisele Yashar in Fast X would be especially noteworthy in emphasizing the notion that no Fast & Furious death is irreversible. However, that is not entirely true, as there have been a few Fast & Furious heroes who have died and never come back.

RELATED: 10 Fast & Furious Characters Who Must Return In New Hobbs Spinoff

4 Jack Toretto
An image of Jack Toretto driving a car in F9

Jack Toretto (J.D. Pardo) is the father of Dom, Mia (Jordana Brewster), and Jakob Toretto (John Cena), and is first seen in a flashback to 1989 in F9. Jack is a highly skilled race car driver who instilled that talent in his children, with Dom and Jakob being part of his racing pit crew. However, Jack’s racing career took a tragic turn when his car malfunctioned and crashed, killing him. Dom later beat his father’s racing opponent, Kenny Linder (Jim Parrack), almost to death with a wrench, believing him responsible for his father’s demise.

This tragedy also led to Dom and Jakob falling out, with Dom later coming to believe that Jakob set up their father’s death since he was the last one to work on his car. However, Jack was intentionally attempting to throw the race in order to get his family out of debt. He had asked Jakob to help tinker with his car so that it would fail, with Jack’s death being unintentional on both their parts. While his return has been theorized by fans, of all the characters killed off in Fast & Furious, Jack Toretto’s death should never be retconned.

3 Jesse
Jesse in The Fast and the Furious pic

One of the early members of Dom’s family in the original The Fast and the Furious, Jesse (Chad Lindberg) was the brains of Dom’s crew in his enterprise of stealing DVD players. Jesse went on the run after losing a street race to Dom’s rival, Johnny Tran (Rick Yune), having bet his MK3 Volkswagen Jetta in the race. Jesse was later killed outside of Dom’s house when Johnny Tran and his associate Lance Nguyen (Reggie Lee) arrived and performed a drive-by shooting. Dom and Brian O’Conner (Paul Walker) then chased down Johnny Tran and Lance Nguyen to avenge their fallen friend.

2 Vince
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Vince (Matt Schulze) was another member of Dom’s crew in The Fast & the Furious, and he was badly injured during a truck heist in that first movie. After his recovery, Vince fled to Rio de Janeiro where he later reunited with Dom and family in Fast Five. Despite Vince having settled down with a wife and a baby son, he agreed to join Dom’s daring heist of Rio’s most feared crime boss Hernan Reyes (Joaquim de Almeida). Unfortunately, Vince was killed during an ambush by Reyes’s team. After successfully pulling off the heist, Dom left Vince’s intended share of the money with his wife and son.

1 Elena
Elena Neves walks with her gun drawn by a car

Elena Neves (Elsa Pataky) worked alongside Luke Hobbs (Dwayne Johnson) in apprehending Dom and his crew in Fast Five. She and Dom gradually developed feelings for each other, however, and departed for Spain with Dom at the end of the movie. After Dom learned that his wife Letty Ortiz (Michelle Rodriguez) was still alive despite her apparent death in Fast & Furious, Dom and Elena had an amicable split, only for it to later be revealed that Elena is the mother of Dom’s son in The Fate of the Furious.

RELATED: How (& Where) To Watch The Fast & Furious Movies In Order By Release Date & Chronologically

After Elena was killed by the villainous Cipher (Charlize Theron), Dom and Letty raised the boy together, with the two naming him Brian after Brian O’Conner. Meanwhile, Dom later met Elena’s sister Isabel (Daniela Melchior), who joined Dom’s crew in Fast X. While Elena remains deceased as of Fast X, the arrival of her sister Isabel and Fast & Furious’s habit of not truly killing off characters makes her the most likely thought-to-be-dead hero to potentially return as the franchise speeds towards its finale.

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