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The Rock’s Hobbs Doesn’t Work With The Main Fast & Furious Movies Anymore

Dwayne Johnson’s role as Luke Hobbs in the Fast & Furious movies no longer works the way it used to, but he has much more of a character future in the Hobbs & Shaw spin-offs. Arriving into the series in the Fast franchise’s most important movie, 2011’s reinvigorating Fast Five, Luke Hobbs (and by extension, The Rock himself) deserves much of the credit for making the Fast & Furious series into the blockbuster phenomenon that it is today. Of course, as the series has progressed, the shift in style that began with Fast Five has also taken it into some extreme territory.

Since Fast Five, the car stunts and action scenes have grown more and more outrageous to the point of being utterly ridiculous in F9, while Johnson has also jumped ship from the main series into the 2019 spin-off Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw, opposite Jason Statham’s Deckard Shaw. A Hobbs & Shaw sequel is reportedly in development (which, after F9, is also primed to address the elephant in the room: the “Justice for Han” movement). Owing to a well-documented falling out with Vin Diesel, Johnson has repeatedly indicated he has no plans to return for the central series’ two-part finale in Fast & Furious 10 and 11, and pretty definitively shut the door on it during the press tour for Jungle Cruise. However, behind-the-scenes issues are far from the only reason why Hobbs is unlikely to ride with Dominic Toretto and his crew once more.

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Hobbs, to put it simply, no longer works as the kind of character that he was conceived as with the Fast & Furious movies being what they are now. That doesn’t mean the Fast franchise’s powerful fighter Hobbs needs to be retired, though: Hobbs & Shaw showed that the buddy-cop pairing gave both titular characters more room to grow, and the format introduces adventures that splinter off from the main series. Hobbs no longer has a fitting role to play in the Fast Saga, but Hobbs & Shaw is positioned to develop into a series in its own right.

Hobbs’ Role In The Main Series Has Run Its Course
Hobbs (Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson) - Fate of the Furious

When Johnson boarded the Fast Saga in Fast Five, Hobbs was at once protagonist and antagonist, pursuing Dom and his crew with relentless abandon as they plotted their heist, and becoming a one-off ally against their common enemy: Rio’s biggest crime boss, Hernan Reyes (Joaquim del Almeida). Hobbs graduated to become the crew’s Nick Fury-type associate in Fast & Furious 6, and though he was mostly injured and on the sidelines in Furious 7 (due to Johnson’s involvement with 2014’s Hercules), he still leapt out of his hospital bend and flex-cracked the cast off his arm to lend a hand in the final battle. Hobbs was back in The Fate of the Furious, but by that point, his role in the series wasn’t what it used to be.

Hobbs was no longer a dedicated lawman but more of a commanding general. The problem was that Hobbs worked best in the series as more of an arm’s length associate of Dom and company, rather than having a seat at their table. His introduction into the series also showed that he would never be fully comfortable under such circumstances, particularly in his relationship with Vin Diesel’s Dominic Toretto; they eventually came to be on the same side, but it was more of a begrudging yet sincere respect than a true friendship. He and Dom also could never truly bury the hatchet enough from their Fast Five animosity for either to become a lieutenant to the other, with Hobbs’ by-the-book leadership style contrasting Dom’s approach of improvising on the fly.

The Fast Saga Has Turned Into A Superhero Series (And Johnson Has His Own In The Works)
Roman and Tej going to space in a car in F9.

To say the Fast & Furious movies bear little resemblance to how the series began is an understatement of colossal proportions. What began in 2001 with street racing and DVD player heists in The Fast and the Furious has morphed into space travel, car magnets, and a transition into what is essentially a full-blown superhero franchise lacking only costumes and hero and villain titles. Tyrese Gibson’s Roman even posits that exact notion in F9, theorizing that Dom and his crew might be invincible with how easily they pull off such amazing feats and survive them unharmed. At the same time, Johnson is building his own comic book movie franchise with a lot of promise behind it.

Johnson has been developing the upcoming DC movie Black Adam as far back as 2008, and the concept teaser for at it 2020’s DC FanDome was among the event’s big highlights. Black Adam has been positioned as a power shift within the DC Universe; it’s the film to introduce the Justice Society of America with Hawkman, Cyclone, and Atom Smasher, and the title character’s history stretching back to his enslavement in the nation of Kahndaq establishes an epic historical scale to the story. Furthermore, Johnson’s frequently teased his endgame of Black Adam going head-to-head with Henry Cavill’s Superman, a titanic battle of gods among men that millions of fans are thoroughly eager to see happen. Considering the Fast Saga has morphed into its own superhero movie franchise — along with Hobbs having outlasted his original role — Black Adam seems like the far more intriguing comic book world for Johnson to dive into. At the same time, Johnson is a continuously powerful presence in more human-level action movies, and Hobbs & Shaw showed that this was where the real future for his character lies in the Fast & Furious universe.

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Hobbs’ Chemistry With Shaw Is More Compelling Than With Dom

As soon as Hobbs and Shaw met in Furious 7, Johnson and Jason Statham showed abundant chemistry as two enemies who later became unwilling partners in The Fate of the Furious. In Hobbs & Shaw, that really took off in the duo’s headbutting and attempts to show each up while trying to defeat the Eteon terrorist group and Idris Elba’s cybernetic assassin Brixton Lore. On a basic level, Hobbs & Shaw also put two former enemies together as allies, as the series had once done with Hobbs pairing with Dom. Looking at Hobbs’ relationships with Dom and Shaw, there’s a lot more potential in exploring the latter.

After their previous appearances together, Hobbs and Dom have nowhere left to go, either as enemies or as friends. Meanwhile, Hobbs’ odd-couple alliance with Shaw has a lot more to build upon, especially with the two having gone from foe to friend more gradually, and even now still not being beyond pranking each other (as seen in the end credits scene of Hobbs & Shaw). There’s more banter and fireworks to be had in Hobbs and Shaw riffing off each other, along with more grounded (by Fast & Furious standards) action scenes in the two being the most skilled fighters in the now pretty vast Fast & Furious character roster. Furthermore, the levity of Hobbs and Shaw’s pairing is far ahead of Hobbs’ relationship with Dom and his crew, which has come to mostly consist of Hobbs summoning Dom’s crew for the latest mission and the two trading the occasional quip. Actors Johnson and Statham clearly have a better behind-the-scenes rapport than Johnson and Diesel, and it shows through the onscreen chemistry.

Considering that F9 showed how potent the Fast & Furious brand remains even during a pandemic, it’s not hard to imagine some attempt being made to bring Hobbs back for the franchise’s finale. Still, aside from how unlikely that now looks with Johnson’s stance on the matter, anything short of the series giving a radical revamping to the role Hobbs occupies would just be a retread of a character dynamic that doesn’t fit the series anymore (admittedly, Fast vs. Furious would be one such way to do it.) On the other hand, more Hobbs & Shaw outings can utilize his character traits much more dynamically. With that, and Black Adam having more superheroic possibilities for Johnson than the comic book world the Fast Saga has become, there’s little to no reason for Hobbs to make a Fast & Furious comeback.

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The 69-Year Story Behind The Fast And Furious Name


The Fast & Furious franchise started with the 2001 movie The Fast and the Furious and went through several major changes in its sequel titles. The title for the original movie was almost different, with options like Race Wars, but the producer fought for The Fast and the Furious.

As the Fast & Furious series has one of the most recognizable franchise names in cinema, some may be curious as to where its origin came from. The multi-billion-dollar franchise started with 2001’s straightforward street racing movie, The Fast and the Furious, but following that, the series went through several major changes, and that was mirrored in the Fast & Furious sequel movie titles. 2 Fast 2 Furious introduced numbered titles, then The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift immediately dropped that format. The fourquel confused things further with the title Fast & Furious, and it only got more confusing from there. However, every title is still a play on the original 2001 title.

The Fast and the Furious came to fruition following a Vibe magazine article called “Racer X”. Universal had the incredible foresight of seeing how popular street racing would become in the 2000s, and the studio quickly grabbed the movie rights to the article. However, while the movie was originally titled after the article, the studio wasn’t totally satisfied with that name, and many other titles, including Race Wars, were considered. The movie even went into production under the title Redline, but producer Neal Moritz had his mind set on one title that seemed unachievable to get; The Fast and the Furious.

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The Fast And The Furious Is Named After A 1954 Movie
Dom and Brian sitting on a car with their friends in The Fast and the Furious

Another movie titled The Fast and the Furious already existed, and it was released almost half a century before the 2001 street racing film was released. 1954’s The Fast and the Furious, written by Roger Corman, has nothing to do with street racing as it exists today. The movie follows a prison escapee who kidnaps a rich woman and steals her Jaguar, then ends up in an epic road race that ends in Mexico. While the title perfectly fits the 1954 film, Moritz was desperate to use the title for his own movie that he was producing, having learned about it after seeing a Roger Corman documentary (via Entertainment Weekly).

Moritz detailed how Universal didn’t seem to be completely on board at first. The producer explained, “I called up the head of marketing at Universal the next morning and said ‘Okay, I’ve got the title: The Fast and the Furious!’ And there was just silence on the other end. I was like, ‘Oh, I guess that is the worst title he’s ever heard.’ However, after mulling it over, Universal agreed, and it worked out perfectly, as the whole world now knows that name and it’s synonymous with the Vin Diesel-led franchise. Movie titles are extremely important, and it’s less likely that the movie would have become a billion-dollar franchise if it was titled Race Wars.

Paul Walker smiles in Dom's garage in The Fast and the Furious

Moritz revealed, “we made a deal with Roger to give him the use of some stock footage that Universal owned.” It isn’t clear if Corman ever benefited financially from that footage. In hindsight, he undoubtedly got a terrible deal. The Fast & Furious name is extremely important to the franchise and has made Universal billions. The name has even been used for spinoffs, and Fast & Furious Present: Hobbs & Shaw wouldn’t have made $760 million without the name attached to it. However, there was no knowing how huge the franchise became. After all, The Fast and the Furious was originally just a scrappy crime movie based on a magazine article.

Source: Entertainment Weekly

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Fast X Video Reveals BTS Of Real, Practical Fights In OTT Sequel


The Fast X fight between Letty and Cipher was filmed using practical effects, resulting in a well-choreographed hand-to-hand combat sequence full of emotions. Cipher’s decision to team up with Dom and “La Familia” was out of necessity, but spending time with Letty after escaping prison could lead to her becoming a member of the family. Cipher’s unexplored history with Giselle and her association with Letty could help in mellowing down the former villain and potentially setting up a redemption arc or even a Cipher spin-off.

A new Fast X behind-the-scenes video shows how Letty (Michelle Rodriguez) and Cipher’s (Charlize Theron) intense fight scene was filmed. Dom and his “La Familia” returned on the big screen in 2023 for the tenth main installment of The Fast Saga. In a major twist, however, instead of butting heads again with Cipher, the primary villain of the franchise for several recent entries, Letty had to team up with her. That didn’t stop Letty from expressing her true feelings about her when they were both captured by the Agency.

Courtesy of Collider is a behind-the-scenes clip from Louis Leterrier’s Fast X that offers a look at how Cipher and Letty’s one-on-one fight scene was filmed. Check out the video below:

The Fast X fight is arguably one of the best choreographed hand-to-hand combat in The Fast Saga, and it’s all because they filmed it with practical effects. The result, coupled with the history between the pair, is an effective action sequence full of emotions.

How Cipher & Letty’s Relationship Evolves In Fast & Furious 11
Cipher wearing a coat in Fast X

Granted that Cipher’s decision to team up with Dom and “La Familia” came from necessity after she was targeted by Jason Momoa’s Dante, spending more time with Letty after escaping prison can lead to her becoming a proper member of “La Familia.” There’s precedent to this, with a few of the recent The Fast Saga villains ending up being redeemed and joining Dom and his crew. This has been the case with Deckard Shaw (despite his attempted murder of Han Lue), and more recently, John Cena’s Jakob, who sacrificed himself in Fast X to save Little B.

Increasing the chances of this happening is Cipher’s unexplored history with Giselle. After she and Letty finally escaped the Agency’s bunk prison, they found themselves in the middle of nowhere. Thankfully, Giselle came to the rescue after Cipher notified her of their escape plan. There has never been any indication that Cipher and Giselle know each other before the massive Fast X twist. Making this more surprising is that Giselle has been believed to be dead for several years now. Her association with Giselle could help Letty mellow down on the former villain when they all return for Fast and Furious 11.

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Perhaps, this unexpected turn could be a set-up for the in-development Cipher spin-off. Specific plot details about the project are currently scant, with Universal still not announcing a tentative release date. Nevertheless, the events of Fast X could be the start of her redemption arc, with her relationship with Letty functioning as a barometer of whether viewers can finally forgive her for all of her transgressions.

Source: Collider

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10 Characters Who Should Be In It


Michelle Rodriguez’s Letty is the franchise’s biggest female character and the obvious pick to lead the all-female spinoff. Jordana Brewster’s Mia deserves a big role in the spinoff to expand on her character and showcase her growth. Brie Larson’s Tess is needed in the spinoff to explore the mystery surrounding her character and add her engaging screen presence to the team.

The Fast & Furious saga is meant to continue with an all-female-led movie, and casting the returning characters presents exciting options. An all-female spinoff could be the perfect way to continue the Fast &Furious story, as it will be able to retain the elements of the franchise that make it iconic while offering a new perspective. From the beginning, the franchise has been very male-dominated, and told male-centric stories, so offering the high-octane thrills of a Fast & Furious movie from a female perspective could be a welcome change of pace.

The series is known for having an all-star cast, so any female spinoff will have to match the previous films. Thankfully, the franchise already has several incredible female movie stars. Fast X, the latest film in the franchise, introduced and reintroduced some exciting female characters, setting the groundwork for the upcoming Fast & Furious movie. Obviously, whatever happens in the next film will determine who will be on the team and what side they will fight for. The franchise already has a healthy supply of female characters, both good and evil, who can factor into a Fast & Furious female spinoff.


Related Fast X Proves How Great A Fast & Furious Female Spinoff Would Be The idea of an all-female spinoff is more exciting than Fast & Furious 11, with Fast X providing the blueprint for just how well it could work.

10 Michelle Rodriguez’s Letty Can Lead The Fast Spinoff Ensemble
She’s the franchise’s biggest female character

Michelle Rodriguez’s Letty has been a key member of the Fast family since the first movie, and no female spinoff would feel right without her leading the team. Dominic Toretto’s wife is one of the fastest drivers in the world. Letty has made her way from street racer to international woman of mystery, becoming one of the franchise’s best characters in the process. Rodriguez is an incredibly engaging screen presence thanks to her charisma and action pedigree. An all-female action movie is right in her wheelhouse, making her the obvious pick for the lead in the movie.

9 Jordana Brewster’s Mia Deserves A Big Role
The Toretto family member has been sidelined recently

Another extension of the Toretto family tree, Jordana Brewster’s Mia is Dom’s brother and the wife of Paul Walker’s Brian. Since Walker’s tragic death, as well as the introduction of countless new characters, Mia has been sidelined in recent films, which is a shame because she is one of the best parts of the earlier films. A spinoff with just the women could be a great time to expand on Mia’s character and see how she has grown over the past couple of years, especially now that she is the mother of two. Brewster is an underrated talent, and Mia should be heavily involved in whatever spinoff the filmmakers plan.

8 Brie Larson’s Tess Is Needed After Fast X Introduction
Mr. Nobody’s daughter has a bright future
Brie Larson as Tess firing a gun in Fast X

Fast X introduced several new faces to the franchise, but perhaps most notably was Brie Larson as Tess “Nobody”, a secret agent on a quest to protect Dom and his family. Larson had relatively little screen time in the movie, and her introduction felt like it was mostly included to set up a future spinoff. The Oscar winner is the perfect name to include in a spinoff. Larson is an incredibly engaging and vulnerable screen presence and a great addition to the team. As her family name would imply, there is still a lot of mystery about Tess that this spinoff could explore.

7 Ramsey’s Return Can Give Nathalie Emmanuel A Major Role
The hacker has a growing set of skills
Nathalie Emmanuel in Fast and Furious 7.

After her first appearance in Furious 7, Nathalie Emmanuel’s Ramsey has been the Fast team’s resident hacker and tech wiz. The Game of Thrones star has mostly been used for exposition and comic relief since joining the team, but Ramsey has a distinctive style and skill set that would make her a great addition to the female spinoff. While Mia and Letty are great drivers, Ramsey has skills in the digital realm that could help the team on whatever mission they are on. It would also be interesting to see how Ramsey functions outside the trio of her, Tej, and Roman.

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6 Daniela Melchior’s Return As Isabel Gives The Spinoff More Legacy
Isabel is the sister of Elena
Isabel (Daniela Melchior) in a car at a street race in Fast X

For a while, Elsa Pataky’s Elena was viewed as an obvious candidate to appear in a Fast & Furious female spinoff. However, after her untimely demise in The Fate of the Furious, her younger sister can fill that void. Another new female protagonist introduced in Fast X, Daniela Melchior’s Isabel also felt like she was included mostly to set up this future spinoff. Melchior is one of the more promising young actors to pop up this decade, and her work in The Suicide Squad proves she is more than ready to have a large part in a team-up action movie.

5 Gal Gadot’s Place In The Fast Spinoff As Gisele Is Likely
Fast X confirmed Gisele is still alive

Gal Gadot made her return to Fast and Furious in the final moments of Fast X’s ending, which confirmed that Gisele is alive after Fast & Furious 6. The character’s return had been speculated for a long time, and audiences should see much more of her now that her fate is confirmed. A Fast & Furious female spinoff can answer lingering questions about Gisele’s life, such as how she survived falling from a plane or what she’s been doing for the last several years. The movie can also finally give Gisele a prominent role in the franchise once again.

4 Charlize Theron’s Cipher Could Play Both Sides In The Spinoff
The franchise’s villain is not to be trusted

In both The Fate of the Furious and F9: The Fast Saga, Charlize Theron’s Cipher served as the franchise’s primary antagonist. While Fast X puts her allegiance into question, she is still one of the best villains in all of Fast and Furious and would make an excellent baddie for the all-women team to go up against. While Cipher could be a reluctant ally to the team, Theron is just much more fun hamming it up as the bad guy, and the film could serve as a fitting conclusion to her movie-spanning scheme.

3 Eva Mendes Can Return As Monica Fuentes At Long Last
She hasn’t been seen since Fast Five
Monica Fuentes pointing a rifle in 2 Fast 2 Furious.

The Fast & Furious female spinoff would also be a great opportunity to finally bring back Eva Mendes as Monica Fuentes. Following her debut in 2 Fast 2 Furious, she returned briefly in Fast Five’s post-credits scene. Eva Mendes has since mostly retired from acting, leaving audiences without a chance to see Monica’s story continue. A Fast X Easter egg did provide a reminder of her presence in the franchise. This could be to help set up her appearance in Fast 11, but a return alongside the franchise’s biggest female characters would be more fitting.

2 Vanessa Kirby’s Hattie Needs To Crossover With The Main Franchise
She’s from the franchise’s only current spinoff
Vanessa Kirby in Fast and Furious Presents Hobbs and Shaw

Only appearing in Hobbs & Shaw, Vanessa Kirby’s Hattie is the third sibling in the Shaw family and one of the most dangerous women in the Fast universe. She was a scene-stealing presence in the previous Fast & Furious spinoff movie that left audiences wanting more. It would be great to see Kirby return for an even bigger role in the franchise spinoff, allowing her to interact with some of the other prominent characters along the way.

1 Helen Mirren’s Queenie Should Be The Female Ensemble’s Mentor
She’s become a frequent face
Dom Toretto and Queenie Shaw in Fast and Furious

With her appearances in the past four movies, including Hobbs & Shaw, Helen Mirren has become a surprising mainstay of the Fast & Furious franchise. Her role as British gangster Queenie is such a fun role for the Dame, and her time in the universe should continue especially in the all-female spinoff. Mirren’s roles in the movies have mostly been one-scene cameos, so this film could be a great space to expand the character and give her a chance to interact with more actors than just Vin Diesel.

Fast X Poster Fast X Release Date: 2023-05-19 Director: Louis Leterrier Cast: Vin Diesel, Michelle Rodriguez, Jason Statham, Jordana Brewster, Tyrese Gibson, Ludacris, Charlize Theron, Nathalie Emmanuel, John Cena, Sung Kang, Helen Mirren, Brie Larson, Scott Eastwood, Jason Momoa Rating: PG-13 Runtime: 141 Minutes Genres: Action, Adventure, Crime Writers: Justin Lin, Dan Mazeau, Gary Scott Thompson Budget: $340 Million Studio(s): Universal Pictures Distributor(s): Universal Pictures Sequel(s): Fast and Furious 11, Fast & Furious 12 prequel(s): Fast & Furious, 2 Fast 2 Furious, The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift, The Fast And The Furious, Fast 5, Fast and Furious 6, Furious 7, Fast and Furious 8, F9: The Fast Saga1 Franchise(s): Fast and Furious

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