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Hobbs’ Fast & Furious Return Is Repeating The Same Mistake As The Rock’s $760 Million Spinoff


“Fast X’s post-credits scene sets up Hobbs’ return to the main Fast and Furious saga.”
“Hobbs & Shaw spinoff didn’t live up to the excitement of the main Fast and Furious movies.”
“The best thing about The Rock’s return is the prospect of seeing Hobbs rejoin the crew in Fast and Furious 11.”

Dwayne Johnson’s Luke Hobbs has rejoined Fast and Furious in Fast X, but his return could end up repeating the same mistake as the saga’s previous $760 million spinoff film. Fast X’s cliffhanger ending was marketed as the movie’s biggest selling point. However, the most significant twist from the latest Fast and Furious film was saved for the post-credits scene, which confirmed the reports of Dwayne Johson rejoining the franchise. Fast X was a box office disappointment, but there are at least two more Fast and Furious movies in the work.

Fast X was about Dante Reyes’ revenge for the death of his father, which has not been concluded yet and will lead into the upcoming Fast & Furious 11. Dante targeted the “Fast and Furious family” and had files on every friend and associate of Dominic Toretto. However, it was only during the post-credits scene that Dante acknowledged the person who was really responsible for Hernan Reyes’ death in what was the perfect setup for Hobbs’ return.

The Rock Has Returned To Fast & Furious (For Another Spinoff)
Hobbs previously appeared in the Hobbs & Shaw spinoff

Dwayne Johnson returned to the Fast and Furious universe during Fast X’s post-credits scene, marking Hobbs’ fast appearance in the main saga since 2017’s The Fate of the Furious. The public feud between Vin Diesel and The Rock, which hit the news during the making of The Fate of the Furious, was followed by Johnson’s exit from the main franchise. Hobbs would still appear in a spinoff movie, Hobbs & Shaw, which starred Dwayne Johnson and Jason Statham. Both Hobbs and Shaw were missing from F9, and it was unclear whether either of them would be in Fast X.

Although Statham’s Shaw appeared in the Fast X trailers, Johnson’s involvement in the movie was only announced a couple of days before it arrived in theaters. In theory, Hobbs appearing at the end of Fast X means that The Rock is finally back into the main saga and will interact with the rest of the family in the new films. However, Johnson’s return was immediately followed by the announcement of a Hobbs spinoff movie, which will not be a sequel to Hobbs & Shaw but rather a new project entirely.

Dwayne Johnson’s new Fast and Furious spinoff is expected to take place between Fast X and Fast & Furious 11, which makes sense considering the former ended with Dante Reyes announcing he is going after Luke Hobbs. The Rock’s character was the only one who actually killed Dante Reyes’ father, meaning there was no better time to bring Hobbs back than now. Still, this should be a plot point for Fast & Furious 11 rather than for a spinoff film. Fast X’s post-credits scene teased Hobbs rejoining the family, which is why having yet another spinoff can be anti-climactic.

Hobbs & Shaw Already Proved Spinoffs Aren’t As Exciting As The Main F&F Movies
Fast and Furious is all about the main family

Dwayne Johnson and Jason Statham in the rain in Hobbs and Shaw

Hobbs & Shaw was not a box office failure. Quite the contrary, the first Fast and Furious spinoff grossed $760 million on a &200 million budget, a solid return for a film that didn’t feature most of the saga’s cast. Still, compared to Fast and Furious’ biggest hits, Hobbs & Shaw was not that impressive. For example, both Furious 7 and The Fate of the Furious grossed more than a billion dollars each, whereas F9 made $726 million during a pandemic context. Even without considering box office numbers, Hobbs & Shaw was just not as exciting as the main films.

Fast and Furious Movies (release order) Box Office The Fast and the Furious $206,458,372 2 Fast 2 Furious $236,410,607 The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift $157,794,205 Fast & Furious $359,347,833 Fast Five $629,975,898 Fast & Furious 6 $789,300,444 Furious 7 $1,511,986,364 The Fate of the Furious $1,235,534,014 Hobbs & Shaw $760,732,926 F9 $719,360,510 Fast X $714,582,312

Although the Fast and Furious timeline is very confusing and full of retcons, particularly regarding Tokyo Drift’s placement in the saga’s chronology, the franchise was built on an interconnected storyline centered on Brian and Dom. The Dominic Toretto family discourses may have become a meme, but this is an important part of the movies – Fast and Furious is just not the same without its main characters. Both Hobbs and Shaw were great additions to the series, even more so after they were redeemed, but Hobbs & Shaw lacked what made Fast and Furious special.

The Rock’s New Fast & Furious Spinoff Makes Hobbs & Shaw 2’s Status Worse
Hobbs & Shaw 2 has yet to happen

The posters for Hobbs & Shaw and F9 combined

Despite the solid box office returns, a sequel to Hobbs & Shaw 2 never happened, which has always caused some confusion among audiences. If Hobbs & Shaw was supposed to be the beginning of a new series of Fast and Furious movies starring Johnson and Statham, it is curious that a second film never happened. Both actors are usually booked and busy, which might help explain why Hobbs & Shaw 2 did not come to be. Additionally, given the significant budget of the film, the studio may have decided to focus on the main Fast Saga films for now.

It is still unclear when
Fast and Furious
will end, as there have been different comments and reports ever since
Fast & Furious 10
was first announced.

Whatever is behind Hobbs & Shaw 2 still has not happened five years after the first movie premiered, and the fact that a brand new Hobbs spinoff is now in the works makes it all more confusing. If the spinoff approach did not work well enough for a sequel to be greenlighted, then it could be assumed that no other Fast and Furious spinoffs would enter production until at least the main saga concluded. There is still a lot to be learned about the Hobbs movie, though, including how it will tie into Fast & Furious 11.

The Best Thing About The Rock’s Fast & Furious Return Isn’t The Hobbs Movie
Hobbs being in Fast 11 sounds more exciting

Dwayne Johnson as Hobbs looking angry in Fast X

Hobbs’ new spinoff film could repeat the same mistakes made by Hobbs & Shaw, which distanced itself from the main saga way too much. As entertaining as Hobbs & Shaw was, it could have been a standalone film featuring original characters and not much would have changed. This is why the best thing about The Rock’s return to Fast and Furious is not the announced spinoff but rather the prospect of seeing Hobbs rejoin the crew once more before the franchise ends. Presumably, Hobbs will be part of Fast & Furious 11.

1:58 Hobbs in Fast Five, Brian in The Fast and the Furious, and Han in Tokyo Drift Related Only Two Fast and Furious Movies Have Truly Delivered On The Franchise’s Original Premise Fast & Furious is often criticized for having abandoned its original premise, but only two movies in the Fast Saga have truly lived up to its name.

It is still unclear when Fast and Furious will end, as there have been different comments and reports ever since Fast & Furious 10 was first announced. Regardless, whichever is Fast and Furious’ final movie, it would benefit from having Hobbs in it. Dwayne Johnson has been part of the franchise since 2011, having become as important to the Fast Saga as some of the older characters. The Hobbs movie can be great, but having Johnson starring alongside the rest of the Fast and Furious family for the first time since 2017 sounds even more promising.

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Fast & Furious 11 Release Delay & Filming Start Date Confirmed By Director


Fast and Furious 11
is facing a release date delay to Summer 2026 due to strikes, with director Louis Leterrier confirming the sequel will not be hitting its April 4, 2025 date.
Leterrier also confirms that filming starts in Fall 2025 after finishing a horror movie in September.
The final installment in the
Fast Saga
reunites Vin Diesel’s Dominic Toretto for one last ride, while also leaving the door open for other spinoffs.

After facing multiple delays due to the 2023 SAG-AFTRA and Writers Guild of America strikes, Fast and Furious 11 is seeing its release date delayed. The next installment in the Vin Diesel-fronted franchise is expected to be the last mainline sequel, while development continues on the Dwayne Johnson-led spinoff Hobbs & Reyes, a mysterious standalone movie penned by Fast X’s Zach Dean and a potential female-led spinoff. While a filming start date was never confirmed, Universal had previously set the movie for an April 2025 release date.

During a recent interview with Collider at a CCXP MX panel, Louis Leterrier was asked for an update on Fast and Furious 11. The director went on to confirm that the final mainline installment in the action franchise will no longer be making its April 4, 2025 release date, instead now aiming for a Summer 2026 release window with the filming start date being set for this fall. Check out what Leterrier said below:

It’s happening. It’s happening very, very soon. I’m able to shoot a little horror movie this summer. I’m finishing my horror movie on September 15th, and I start Fast on September 16th.

Will Fast 11’s Multiple Delays Help Or Hurt The Sequel?

Much like the tenth film before it, Fast and Furious 11 has faced a few behind-the-scenes hardships in its road to getting off the ground, namely the delays stemming from the 2023 strikes. While the latest movie seems to have retained its core creative team in comparison to the shift in directors from franchise vet Justin Lin to Leterrier on Fast X after reported creative differences between the former and Diesel, this change didn’t seem to help much with the continued downward trend recent sequels have seen from critics. Check out how the franchise’s Rotten Tomatoes scores compare below:

Title RT Critical Score RT Audience Score The Fast and the Furious 54% 74% 2 Fast 2 Furious 37% 50% The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift 37% 69% Fast & Furious 28% 67% Fast Five 78% 83% Fast & Furious 6 71% 84% Furious 7 81% 82% The Fate of the Furious 67% 72% Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw 67% 88% F9: The Fast Saga 59% 82% Fast X 56% 84%

Even looking outside the Fast and Furious franchise, many movie sequels have found themselves hurt by various delays, be they from creative changes, general release shifts or other factors. The action genre in particular is one in which lengthier development periods can lead to diminishing returns, be it A Good Day to Die Hard, Rambo: Last Blood or Diesel’s own xXx: The Return of Xander Cage. While Fast and Furious 11 may only be getting pushed back by a year, the delay is nonetheless a concern that the final installment could find itself in trouble.

Dom Toretto (Vin Diesel) looking angry with Letty (Michelle Rodriguez) looking unimpressed in Fast & Furious

Related 10 Most Exciting Things To Expect From Fast 11 Fast & Furious 11 will pull all the strings to become bigger than the previous installments, and here is why the film is worth being excited about.

On the other hand, the longer wait for Fast and Furious 11 to close out the mainline series of movies could actually prove beneficial for the sequel. Though Leterrier may be busy with another project in the lead-up to filming the next installment, writers Oren Uziel and Christina Hodson should now have more than enough time to really look back at the script and ensure it learns from the critical missteps of recent installments to deliver a satisfying conclusion to the Dominic Toretto saga.

Source: Collider

Fast and Furious 11 temp poster Fast and Furious 11 Fast and Furious 11 is the final movie in the Fast Saga. It reunites Vin Diesel’s Dominic Toretto with the rest of the cast for one last ride. However, the franchise is open for spinoff films like Hobbs & Shaw afterward.Director Louis Leterrier Release Date April 4, 2025 Distributor(s) Universal Pictures Writers Christina Hodson , Oren Uziel

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Vin Diesel Already Has His Perfect Fast & Furious Replacement Franchise With 51-Year-Old Remake


Vin Diesel’s dominance in Fast & Furious is ending, but Kojak could kick off a new action franchise for him.
Kojak’s reboot faces an uncertain future, but its similarity to Fast & Furious makes it a worthy project for Diesel.
Diesel’s potential shift from criminal racer to cop signifies a fresh start in a possible Fast & Furious-like series.

Vin Diesel’s days of playing Dominic Toretto are numbered, but the actor has already found his perfect Fast & Furious replacement. Diesel found a major breakout role in the early 2000s thanks to participating in The Fast and the Furious. The original 2001 street racing crime movie became the springboard for a sprawling franchise that has lasted for over two decades. The success of the Fast & Furious movies transformed Vin Diesel’s career, turning him into an even bigger star, especially in the action movie genre. But, Fast & Furious 11 is planned as the final chapter for him and the franchise.

The Fast & Furious franchise’s end will put Vin Diesel in an unfamiliar position of not having a major franchise to lean back on. This presents the actor with various options, such as changing the course of his career to pursue non-franchise roles. However, the more likely outcome is that Diesel will attempt to find a new IP that can replace Fast & Furious. He has had trouble in that regard recently, with franchises like xXx or Riddick running cold and Bloodshot and The Last Witch Hunter failing to launch franchises. There is another option for Diesel, though.

2:03 Vin Diesel as Dominic Toretto from The Fast & Furious Franchise

Related Vin Diesel May Have Spoiled Fast & Furious 11’s Ending With $2.7 Billion Movie Comparison Dom’s death happening in Fast & Furious 11 may have been spoiled already, with Vin Diesel comparing the upcoming movie to another big franchise.

Kojak Can Be Vin Diesel’s New Action Crime Franchise After Fast & Furious
Diesel Has Been Developing The Reboot Since 2015

The impending conclusion of the Fast & Furious franchise means it is finally time for Vin Diesel’s Kojak reboot to get off the ground. The project was announced back in 2015 with Diesel re-teaming with Universal Pictures, the studio behind Fast & Furious, to develop a movie based on Kojak. The original TV series starred Telly Savalas as Theo Kokaj and ran for three seasons after debuting in 1973. The series revolves around Kojak, a New York detective known for being willing to go beyond the law and a love for cars and lollipops, and follows him as he investigates different cases.

Kojak was rebooted in 2005 as a TV show starring Ving Rhames, but it only ran for six episodes

Development on Vin Diesel’s Kojak movie has not been very active in the nine years since it was announced. However, it still maintains the base similarities to Fast & Furious, which makes the project a worthwhile endeavor for Diesel in terms of finding a new action franchise. He would now have another big action series about cars and crime, essentially making Kojak into a newer version of Fast & Furious. The irony here is that Diesel takes on the role of a cop after playing criminal racer Dominic Toretto.

Vin Diesel’s Involvement Can Morph Kojak Into A Major Action Franchise
Kojak Could Be A Fast & Furious Clone
Telly Savalas talking on the phone in Kojak

Looking at the original TV show, Kojak might not necessarily project to be a major blockbuster action franchise akin to Fast & Furious. The TV series was relatively grounded and small due to the nature of its production. However, the fact that Diesel and Universal pinpointed this property as something they wanted to revive together is telling. The announcement of Kojak’s reboot came months after Furious 7 debuted in theaters and took the franchise to new heights at the box office and in terms of how ridiculously big the action and story could get.

It’s sometimes difficult to remember that Fast & Furious started off with a story about DVD thieves who were also street racers before Diesel helped turn it into something much bigger. With that experience and success already behind him, it would be understandable if a similar path was envisioned for Kojak. The series could then morph into a Fast & Furious clone, one that gives Vin Diesel a new franchise to headline and Universal a “fresh” action franchise to grow.

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The Rock’s WWE Run Means Fast & Furious 11 Must Make 1 Major Hobbs Change


Hobbs from Fast & Furious 11 needs a gritty edge like The Rock’s WWE character to keep the franchise fresh and exciting.
The Rock’s time away from the Fast & Furious universe provides the perfect reason for Hobbs to return with a personal vendetta and a more savage attitude.
While Hobbs shouldn’t become a full-fledged villain in Fast & Furious 11, adding some edginess and dirty tricks could make his character more intriguing and dynamic.

Fast & Furious 11 must make one major Hobbs change after The Rock’s incredible WWE run. Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson’s WWE return surpassed his recent movies, with the actor creating some of the best work of his career. Having returned to a thunderous reception, The Rock was able to flip the crowd’s reception by becoming a heel and playing a major part in WrestleMania’s main events. The Rock hasn’t played a villain on screen for years, as even his depiction of Black Adam lent more into the character’s anti-hero side, which made his wrestling run all the more refreshing.

While his wrestling character may not perfectly translate into the Fast & Furious universe, there is one aspect of The Rock’s WWE run that the franchise should attempt to implement. After debuting in Fast Five, The Rock’s best Fast & Furious scenes helped contribute to the movie series becoming so popular, with Luke Hobbs becoming an instrumental part of the story. He was even given his own spinoff alongside Deckard Shaw (Jason Statham) and is set to get a solo movie in the future. Despite this, Hobbs would still benefit from adding one key aspect of The Rock’s WWE run.

The Rock’s WWE Run Proves Fast & Furious 11 Needs To Give Hobbs More Of An Edge
Fast & Furious Would Benefit From Hobbs Adopting Some Of The Rock’s WWE Tendancies
Dwayne The Rock Johnson in Black Adam, WWE, and Hobbs and Shaw

Given how electrifying The Rock’s recent WWE run was, there is no doubt Fast & Furious 11 needs to give Hobbs more of an edge. Although the character has had his more serious moments, like most of the Fast & Furious cast, Hobbs tends to mix action with comedy. Hobbs and Shaw are supposed to be two of the more stoic heroes, yet they are constantly at each other’s throats and cracking jokes to help maintain the franchise’s lighthearted core. However, giving Hobbs a grittier side would help the character thrive upon his return.

The Rock’s Fast & Furious return may redeem Fast X’s box office, but the character needs to come back stronger than ever. By allowing him to be more ruthless, he can still maintain some elements of comedy but also become more interesting in the process. Johnson proved that despite being a detestable heel, he was still as hilarious as ever during his recent WWE tenure. This proves that he can maintain Fast & Furious’ tone and humorous style while being more layered; therefore, Hobbs adopting some of The Rock’s WWE characteristics could make him even more entertaining.

Fast & Furious Already Has A Reason For Hobbs To Be More Savage
Hobbs Has Been Away From The Franchise For Several Years

Making a major change to Hobbs’ character could be tough to explain, but Fast & Furious 11 already has a great reason to make him more savage. His four-year absence from the franchise gives him a perfect excuse to come back with a vengeance and potentially have a personal attachment to Fast & Furious 11’s villains. Hobbs’ time away from the main story could be explained through a connection to Fast X’s secondary villain, Aimes. Aimes’ villain twist in Fast X was well executed and suggests he’ll be around for the sequel, which is the perfect reason to bring back Hobbs.

Having a more personal story with one of the villains could allow Hobbs to continue his great quips and one-liners, but it would also give him more of an edge.

Fast X never explained why he’s back, but having a personal vendetta against Aimes could be an intriguing reason. Given Dom and Dante are the focal point of the franchise’s conclusion, Hobbs returning to take down Aimes would avoid overshadowing the main story while still giving him an interesting role. Having a personal story with one of the villains could allow Hobbs to continue his great quips and one-liners, while also giving him more of an edge. This provides The Rock with the perfect reason to implement some of his heel traits while still portraying a morally good hero.

2:34 Image 147 Related Predicting The Ending Of All 13 Fast & Furious Characters In Fast 11 The Fast Saga is set to conclude with Fast & Furious 11 – or Fast X 2 – but how will Dom Toretto and his family’s stories come to a definitive end?

Why Fast & Furious Can’t Bring The Rock Back As A Villain
Hobbs Already Appeared As An Antagonist In Fast Five
A custom image featuring Dwayne Johnson as Luke Hobbs in the Fast and Furious movies Custom image by Debanjana Chowdhury

Although The Rock’s villainous tendencies worked well in the WWE, Fast & Furious can’t bring him back as an antagonist. Johnson already played the main villain of Fast Five, as Hobbs was originally an enemy of Dom and his crew before becoming an ally. Hobbs’ role in Fast Five was one of his best, but despite being the main antagonist, he always had a level of integrity. Dropping all of this to make him a villain in the final movie would be completely unnecessary, especially as the franchise needs him to remain a hero for his spinoff.

Fast & Furious 11 may end the main story, but The Rock will be part of the franchise beyond this, and altering his character so drastically wouldn’t make any sense. Instead, adding some extra edge to his character would have the same effect and would avoid stealing the thunder from Dante and Aimes. Although Fast & Furious 11 shouldn’t make him a villain, the film can still allow Hobbs to play dirty and pull some cheap tricks in order to show a grittier side, while letting him taunt his enemies when he inevitably helps save the day.

Fast & Furious 11
is scheduled to be released in theaters on April 4, 2025.

Fast and Furious 11 temp poster Fast and Furious 11 Fast and Furious 11 is the final movie in the Fast Saga. It reunites Vin Diesel’s Dominic Toretto with the rest of the cast for one last ride. However, the franchise is open for spinoff films like Hobbs & Shaw afterward.Director Louis Leterrier Release Date April 4, 2025 Distributor(s) Universal Pictures Writers Christina Hodson , Oren Uziel

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