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4 Ways The Rock & Vin Diesel’s Feud Hurt Fast & Furious

Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson and Vin Diesel’s ongoing feud has hurt the Fast and Furious franchise. Diesel has been with the series since the beginning, with 2001’s The Fast and the Furious. Johnson, however, joined the franchise with 2011’s Fast Five. Despite Johnson’s introduction to the franchise being very well-received by critics and audiences alike, behind-the-scenes troubles between the Fast and Furious leading men began shortly after. Ultimately, the feud between Diesel and Johnson became public in 2016, during the production of The Fate of the Furious, when the latter actor published a now-deleted post on Instagram where he called unspecified male Fast and Furious cast members “candy asses.”

Immediately, people began speculating that Diesel was the target of Johnson’s post and the two actors continued to publish thinly-veiled social media posts targeting one another. Diesel and Johnson’s feud escalated during pre-production of F9: The Fast Saga when their co-star Tyrese Gibson blamed Johnson for the delay in filming. However, Diesel publicly defended Johnson from Gibson’s claims, but the damage was done and Johnson confirmed that he would not appear in F9: The Fast Saga. Though the Diesel-Johnson feud only became public in 2016, there are signs that it began several years earlier, during the filming of Fast & Furious 6.
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The Rock & Diesel’s Feud Ruined One Hilariously Bad F&F6 Scene

Vin Diesel and Dwayne Johnson in Fast & Furious 6

It is certainly possible that the feud between Vin Diesel and Dwayne Johnson started back in 2012, during the production of Fast & Furious 6, judging by this one hilariously bad scene from the movie. The scene is clearly trying to convey that Johnson’s Luke Hobbs and Diesel’s Dom Toretto are having a face-to-face conversation, but the actors’ blocking reveals that at no point in any shot are the two actors actually looking at each other. This scene has several different (awful) examples of forced perspective shots, which attempt to make it seem like the two actors are closer together than they actually are. However, it is never convincing.

The opening shot has Toretto walking toward Hobbs, but Diesel’s eyes never move, indicating that he is not looking at Johnson. It’s an utterly bizarre sequence that only seems to have been filmed through forced perspective in an attempt to shrink Johnson down to Diesel’s size. Vin Diesel, who produces the Fast and Furious franchise on top of acting in it, has significant control over the series and one explanation of why this Fast & Furious 6 scene was filmed this way is that he simply didn’t want to be physically overshadowed by Johnson. However, production troubles due to the feud would only continue past Fast & Furious 6​​​​​.

The Rock & Vin Diesel’s Feud Meant They Didn’t Film Fate Of The Furious Together

Dom is Angry in Fate of the Furious

Despite Luke Hobbs and Dom Toretto being two of the most important characters in the franchise’s eighth entry, The Fate of the Furious, Dwayne Johnson and Vin Diesel didn’t film a single scene together during production due to their feud. As a result, the two characters only appear in one scene together, but this was achieved through editing in post-production rather than by having Diesel and Johnson together on set at the same time. While this does not ruin The Fate of the Furious, due to Toretto’s storyline seeing him largely working with villain Cipher (Charlize Theron) for most of the runtime, the feud affected the film in additional ways.
Diesel used his position as a producer on The Fate of the Furious to cut an important Luke Hobbs scene from the film’s ending. The scene would have reunited Hobbs with his rival, Deckard Shaw (Jason Statham). Although the scene performed well with test audiences, Diesel had the scene cut from the theatrical cut of The Fate of the Furious anyway. Johnson was also supposedly agitated by reports of Diesel’s on-set behavior. Supposedly, Diesel was consistently late to filming days, causing delays. Diesel attempted to smooth over the cracks of the feud during The Fate of the Furious’ marketing campaign, stating that he affectionately calls Johnson “Uncle Dwayne”.
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However, Diesel’s efforts to repair his working relationship with Johnson did not pan out. As a result, the Fate of the Furious would be the last mainline Fast and Furious movie Dwayne Johnson worked on. Instead of continuing to appear with Vin Diesel in the mainline franchise, Johnson moved into a spinoff focusing on his Luke Hobbs character, Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw.

Hobbs & Shaw Was Worse Than The Rock Appearing In F9

Shaw and Hobbs in the rain in Hobbs & Shaw

Although Hobbs & Shaw managed to become financially successful when it was theatrically released in 2019, the film pales in comparison to how good F9: The Fast Saga would have been with Dwayne Johnson involved. Despite being directed by John Wick’s co-director David Leitch, the action in Hobbs & Shaw is nowhere near as exciting. Instead, Hobbs & Shaw’s highlight is the banter between Dwayne Johnson and Jason Statham, which could have been easily adapted into F9: The Fast Saga if it weren’t for the feud between Johnson and Vin Diesel.
In fact, Dwayne Johnson was supposed to appear in F9 before confirming his absence from the film in January 2019. This indicates that his feud with Diesel was still underway, despite seeming settled publicly. Johnson thanked “brother Vin” for supporting Hobbs & Shaw on Instagram following the spinoff’s release. However, the feud was still ongoing in private, as indicated by Dwayne Johnson’s continued absence from the mainline Fast and Furious franchise.

The Rock’s Hobbs Probably Won’t Return For Fast X Or Fast 11 (When He Should)

Dwayne Johnson as Hobbs holding a gun in Fast & Furious franchise

Although Luke Hobbs was such an important character in the Fast and Furious series, to the degree that he even got his own spinoff film, he will not be appearing in the franchise’s last two mainline entries due to Johnson’s feud with Diesel. What makes this even more bizarre is that Fast X will feature flashbacks to Fast Five to introduce its villain, Dante (Jason Momoa). Fast Five was Johnson’s first Fast and Furious movie, and it will be incredibly weird to return to the film without his involvement.
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Johnson’s continued absence from the Fast and Furious franchise has led to the series attempting to replace him. The Rock-less F9: The Fast Saga included fellow former professional wrestler John Cena as an antagonist-turned-hero, much like how Luke Hobbs was introduced in Fast Five. Again, Fast X looks to be attempting to replace the physically imposing Johnson with Jason Momoa. It is unfortunate that Dwayne Johnson has no interest in returning to the franchise due to his feud with Vin Diesel, one of the many ways that the feud has hurt the Fast and Furious series.
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The 69-Year Story Behind The Fast And Furious Name

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The Fast & Furious franchise started with the 2001 movie The Fast and the Furious and went through several major changes in its sequel titles. The title for the original movie was almost different, with options like Race Wars, but the producer fought for The Fast and the Furious.

As the Fast & Furious series has one of the most recognizable franchise names in cinema, some may be curious as to where its origin came from. The multi-billion-dollar franchise started with 2001’s straightforward street racing movie, The Fast and the Furious, but following that, the series went through several major changes, and that was mirrored in the Fast & Furious sequel movie titles. 2 Fast 2 Furious introduced numbered titles, then The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift immediately dropped that format. The fourquel confused things further with the title Fast & Furious, and it only got more confusing from there. However, every title is still a play on the original 2001 title.

The Fast and the Furious came to fruition following a Vibe magazine article called “Racer X”. Universal had the incredible foresight of seeing how popular street racing would become in the 2000s, and the studio quickly grabbed the movie rights to the article. However, while the movie was originally titled after the article, the studio wasn’t totally satisfied with that name, and many other titles, including Race Wars, were considered. The movie even went into production under the title Redline, but producer Neal Moritz had his mind set on one title that seemed unachievable to get; The Fast and the Furious.

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The Fast And The Furious Is Named After A 1954 Movie
Dom and Brian sitting on a car with their friends in The Fast and the Furious

Another movie titled The Fast and the Furious already existed, and it was released almost half a century before the 2001 street racing film was released. 1954’s The Fast and the Furious, written by Roger Corman, has nothing to do with street racing as it exists today. The movie follows a prison escapee who kidnaps a rich woman and steals her Jaguar, then ends up in an epic road race that ends in Mexico. While the title perfectly fits the 1954 film, Moritz was desperate to use the title for his own movie that he was producing, having learned about it after seeing a Roger Corman documentary (via Entertainment Weekly).

Moritz detailed how Universal didn’t seem to be completely on board at first. The producer explained, “I called up the head of marketing at Universal the next morning and said ‘Okay, I’ve got the title: The Fast and the Furious!’ And there was just silence on the other end. I was like, ‘Oh, I guess that is the worst title he’s ever heard.’ However, after mulling it over, Universal agreed, and it worked out perfectly, as the whole world now knows that name and it’s synonymous with the Vin Diesel-led franchise. Movie titles are extremely important, and it’s less likely that the movie would have become a billion-dollar franchise if it was titled Race Wars.

Paul Walker smiles in Dom's garage in The Fast and the Furious

Moritz revealed, “we made a deal with Roger to give him the use of some stock footage that Universal owned.” It isn’t clear if Corman ever benefited financially from that footage. In hindsight, he undoubtedly got a terrible deal. The Fast & Furious name is extremely important to the franchise and has made Universal billions. The name has even been used for spinoffs, and Fast & Furious Present: Hobbs & Shaw wouldn’t have made $760 million without the name attached to it. However, there was no knowing how huge the franchise became. After all, The Fast and the Furious was originally just a scrappy crime movie based on a magazine article.

Source: Entertainment Weekly

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Fast X Video Reveals BTS Of Real, Practical Fights In OTT Sequel

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The Fast X fight between Letty and Cipher was filmed using practical effects, resulting in a well-choreographed hand-to-hand combat sequence full of emotions. Cipher’s decision to team up with Dom and “La Familia” was out of necessity, but spending time with Letty after escaping prison could lead to her becoming a member of the family. Cipher’s unexplored history with Giselle and her association with Letty could help in mellowing down the former villain and potentially setting up a redemption arc or even a Cipher spin-off.

A new Fast X behind-the-scenes video shows how Letty (Michelle Rodriguez) and Cipher’s (Charlize Theron) intense fight scene was filmed. Dom and his “La Familia” returned on the big screen in 2023 for the tenth main installment of The Fast Saga. In a major twist, however, instead of butting heads again with Cipher, the primary villain of the franchise for several recent entries, Letty had to team up with her. That didn’t stop Letty from expressing her true feelings about her when they were both captured by the Agency.

Courtesy of Collider is a behind-the-scenes clip from Louis Leterrier’s Fast X that offers a look at how Cipher and Letty’s one-on-one fight scene was filmed. Check out the video below:

The Fast X fight is arguably one of the best choreographed hand-to-hand combat in The Fast Saga, and it’s all because they filmed it with practical effects. The result, coupled with the history between the pair, is an effective action sequence full of emotions.

How Cipher & Letty’s Relationship Evolves In Fast & Furious 11
Cipher wearing a coat in Fast X

Granted that Cipher’s decision to team up with Dom and “La Familia” came from necessity after she was targeted by Jason Momoa’s Dante, spending more time with Letty after escaping prison can lead to her becoming a proper member of “La Familia.” There’s precedent to this, with a few of the recent The Fast Saga villains ending up being redeemed and joining Dom and his crew. This has been the case with Deckard Shaw (despite his attempted murder of Han Lue), and more recently, John Cena’s Jakob, who sacrificed himself in Fast X to save Little B.

Increasing the chances of this happening is Cipher’s unexplored history with Giselle. After she and Letty finally escaped the Agency’s bunk prison, they found themselves in the middle of nowhere. Thankfully, Giselle came to the rescue after Cipher notified her of their escape plan. There has never been any indication that Cipher and Giselle know each other before the massive Fast X twist. Making this more surprising is that Giselle has been believed to be dead for several years now. Her association with Giselle could help Letty mellow down on the former villain when they all return for Fast and Furious 11.

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Perhaps, this unexpected turn could be a set-up for the in-development Cipher spin-off. Specific plot details about the project are currently scant, with Universal still not announcing a tentative release date. Nevertheless, the events of Fast X could be the start of her redemption arc, with her relationship with Letty functioning as a barometer of whether viewers can finally forgive her for all of her transgressions.

Source: Collider

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10 Characters Who Should Be In It

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Michelle Rodriguez’s Letty is the franchise’s biggest female character and the obvious pick to lead the all-female spinoff. Jordana Brewster’s Mia deserves a big role in the spinoff to expand on her character and showcase her growth. Brie Larson’s Tess is needed in the spinoff to explore the mystery surrounding her character and add her engaging screen presence to the team.

The Fast & Furious saga is meant to continue with an all-female-led movie, and casting the returning characters presents exciting options. An all-female spinoff could be the perfect way to continue the Fast &Furious story, as it will be able to retain the elements of the franchise that make it iconic while offering a new perspective. From the beginning, the franchise has been very male-dominated, and told male-centric stories, so offering the high-octane thrills of a Fast & Furious movie from a female perspective could be a welcome change of pace.

The series is known for having an all-star cast, so any female spinoff will have to match the previous films. Thankfully, the franchise already has several incredible female movie stars. Fast X, the latest film in the franchise, introduced and reintroduced some exciting female characters, setting the groundwork for the upcoming Fast & Furious movie. Obviously, whatever happens in the next film will determine who will be on the team and what side they will fight for. The franchise already has a healthy supply of female characters, both good and evil, who can factor into a Fast & Furious female spinoff.

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Related Fast X Proves How Great A Fast & Furious Female Spinoff Would Be The idea of an all-female spinoff is more exciting than Fast & Furious 11, with Fast X providing the blueprint for just how well it could work.

10 Michelle Rodriguez’s Letty Can Lead The Fast Spinoff Ensemble
She’s the franchise’s biggest female character

Michelle Rodriguez’s Letty has been a key member of the Fast family since the first movie, and no female spinoff would feel right without her leading the team. Dominic Toretto’s wife is one of the fastest drivers in the world. Letty has made her way from street racer to international woman of mystery, becoming one of the franchise’s best characters in the process. Rodriguez is an incredibly engaging screen presence thanks to her charisma and action pedigree. An all-female action movie is right in her wheelhouse, making her the obvious pick for the lead in the movie.

9 Jordana Brewster’s Mia Deserves A Big Role
The Toretto family member has been sidelined recently

Another extension of the Toretto family tree, Jordana Brewster’s Mia is Dom’s brother and the wife of Paul Walker’s Brian. Since Walker’s tragic death, as well as the introduction of countless new characters, Mia has been sidelined in recent films, which is a shame because she is one of the best parts of the earlier films. A spinoff with just the women could be a great time to expand on Mia’s character and see how she has grown over the past couple of years, especially now that she is the mother of two. Brewster is an underrated talent, and Mia should be heavily involved in whatever spinoff the filmmakers plan.

8 Brie Larson’s Tess Is Needed After Fast X Introduction
Mr. Nobody’s daughter has a bright future
Brie Larson as Tess firing a gun in Fast X

Fast X introduced several new faces to the franchise, but perhaps most notably was Brie Larson as Tess “Nobody”, a secret agent on a quest to protect Dom and his family. Larson had relatively little screen time in the movie, and her introduction felt like it was mostly included to set up a future spinoff. The Oscar winner is the perfect name to include in a spinoff. Larson is an incredibly engaging and vulnerable screen presence and a great addition to the team. As her family name would imply, there is still a lot of mystery about Tess that this spinoff could explore.

7 Ramsey’s Return Can Give Nathalie Emmanuel A Major Role
The hacker has a growing set of skills
Nathalie Emmanuel in Fast and Furious 7.

After her first appearance in Furious 7, Nathalie Emmanuel’s Ramsey has been the Fast team’s resident hacker and tech wiz. The Game of Thrones star has mostly been used for exposition and comic relief since joining the team, but Ramsey has a distinctive style and skill set that would make her a great addition to the female spinoff. While Mia and Letty are great drivers, Ramsey has skills in the digital realm that could help the team on whatever mission they are on. It would also be interesting to see how Ramsey functions outside the trio of her, Tej, and Roman.

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6 Daniela Melchior’s Return As Isabel Gives The Spinoff More Legacy
Isabel is the sister of Elena
Isabel (Daniela Melchior) in a car at a street race in Fast X

For a while, Elsa Pataky’s Elena was viewed as an obvious candidate to appear in a Fast & Furious female spinoff. However, after her untimely demise in The Fate of the Furious, her younger sister can fill that void. Another new female protagonist introduced in Fast X, Daniela Melchior’s Isabel also felt like she was included mostly to set up this future spinoff. Melchior is one of the more promising young actors to pop up this decade, and her work in The Suicide Squad proves she is more than ready to have a large part in a team-up action movie.

5 Gal Gadot’s Place In The Fast Spinoff As Gisele Is Likely
Fast X confirmed Gisele is still alive

Gal Gadot made her return to Fast and Furious in the final moments of Fast X’s ending, which confirmed that Gisele is alive after Fast & Furious 6. The character’s return had been speculated for a long time, and audiences should see much more of her now that her fate is confirmed. A Fast & Furious female spinoff can answer lingering questions about Gisele’s life, such as how she survived falling from a plane or what she’s been doing for the last several years. The movie can also finally give Gisele a prominent role in the franchise once again.

4 Charlize Theron’s Cipher Could Play Both Sides In The Spinoff
The franchise’s villain is not to be trusted

In both The Fate of the Furious and F9: The Fast Saga, Charlize Theron’s Cipher served as the franchise’s primary antagonist. While Fast X puts her allegiance into question, she is still one of the best villains in all of Fast and Furious and would make an excellent baddie for the all-women team to go up against. While Cipher could be a reluctant ally to the team, Theron is just much more fun hamming it up as the bad guy, and the film could serve as a fitting conclusion to her movie-spanning scheme.

3 Eva Mendes Can Return As Monica Fuentes At Long Last
She hasn’t been seen since Fast Five
Monica Fuentes pointing a rifle in 2 Fast 2 Furious.

The Fast & Furious female spinoff would also be a great opportunity to finally bring back Eva Mendes as Monica Fuentes. Following her debut in 2 Fast 2 Furious, she returned briefly in Fast Five’s post-credits scene. Eva Mendes has since mostly retired from acting, leaving audiences without a chance to see Monica’s story continue. A Fast X Easter egg did provide a reminder of her presence in the franchise. This could be to help set up her appearance in Fast 11, but a return alongside the franchise’s biggest female characters would be more fitting.

2 Vanessa Kirby’s Hattie Needs To Crossover With The Main Franchise
She’s from the franchise’s only current spinoff
Vanessa Kirby in Fast and Furious Presents Hobbs and Shaw

Only appearing in Hobbs & Shaw, Vanessa Kirby’s Hattie is the third sibling in the Shaw family and one of the most dangerous women in the Fast universe. She was a scene-stealing presence in the previous Fast & Furious spinoff movie that left audiences wanting more. It would be great to see Kirby return for an even bigger role in the franchise spinoff, allowing her to interact with some of the other prominent characters along the way.

1 Helen Mirren’s Queenie Should Be The Female Ensemble’s Mentor
She’s become a frequent face
Dom Toretto and Queenie Shaw in Fast and Furious

With her appearances in the past four movies, including Hobbs & Shaw, Helen Mirren has become a surprising mainstay of the Fast & Furious franchise. Her role as British gangster Queenie is such a fun role for the Dame, and her time in the universe should continue especially in the all-female spinoff. Mirren’s roles in the movies have mostly been one-scene cameos, so this film could be a great space to expand the character and give her a chance to interact with more actors than just Vin Diesel.

Fast X Poster Fast X Release Date: 2023-05-19 Director: Louis Leterrier Cast: Vin Diesel, Michelle Rodriguez, Jason Statham, Jordana Brewster, Tyrese Gibson, Ludacris, Charlize Theron, Nathalie Emmanuel, John Cena, Sung Kang, Helen Mirren, Brie Larson, Scott Eastwood, Jason Momoa Rating: PG-13 Runtime: 141 Minutes Genres: Action, Adventure, Crime Writers: Justin Lin, Dan Mazeau, Gary Scott Thompson Budget: $340 Million Studio(s): Universal Pictures Distributor(s): Universal Pictures Sequel(s): Fast and Furious 11, Fast & Furious 12 prequel(s): Fast & Furious, 2 Fast 2 Furious, The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift, The Fast And The Furious, Fast 5, Fast and Furious 6, Furious 7, Fast and Furious 8, F9: The Fast Saga1 Franchise(s): Fast and Furious

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